THE FOLLOWING APPEARED IN OUR INBOX, FROM A YOUNG GREEK AMERICAN ACTIVIST, ALEX...
Greek Americans who supported Hilary in the beginning refused to acknowledge Obama's excellent record on the issues. Not only this. Obama has excellent Greek friends in Chicago including Illinios State Treasurer Alex Giannoulias.
Giannoulias was elected in 2006 and is in his early 30's. Obama is challenging the status quo and the DC establishment elite who are supporting Hilary.Obama is raising money from middle class, and low income people while Hilary is tapping special interests associated with Bill Clinton.
I read a book in 2002 how the Clintons are a marriage of convenience. The book revealed how Hilary had ambition to run for President using her husband. Any women would have divorced Bill when the Monica scandal happened. She never divorced. This is a sign that this woman is using her husband to get higher office. We had two generation of the Bush family in the White House which was a disaster. Another Clinton would be a castrophe.
-Alex
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
STATE DEPT SELLING OFF MACEDONIA
STATE DEPARTMENT REGULAR BRIEFING BRIEFER: SEAN MCCORMACK 12 Feb 2008
Lambros
Q Mr. McCormack, any readout on today's meeting between Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and the foreign minister of FYROM, Antonio Milososki?
MR. MCCORMACK: The Macedonian foreign minister and the secretary had a good meeting.
They talked about Macedonia's application to join NATO. They talked about Kosovo. And the subset of the issue related to NATO, they talked about the name issue -- so-called name issue with respect to Macedonia.
And our bottom line, which the secretary reiterated, is we urged Macedonia, as we will urge the Greek foreign minister, when the secretary sees her later in the week, to fully participate in the process that is being run by the secretary-general's special representative, Nimitz. He's working hard on this issue and we urge them to use that process and use the good offices of Ambassador Nimitz to find a resolution to the issue.
Q Yes, one more. On the bilateral level, any concrete effort, like mediation, by Secretary Rice for a solution on the name issue, as you said, between Greece and FYROM?
MR. MCCORMACK: Now see, replay what I just said. She urged them to use that process, use the process that is being run by the secretary-general's special representative. She urged them to -- she urged the foreign minister to use that process to find a solution, as she will urge the Greek foreign minister when she sees her on Thursday.
Q Who initiated --
Q And again there were no suggestions of possible new names?
MR. MCCORMACK: No. No.
Lambros
Q Mr. McCormack, any readout on today's meeting between Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and the foreign minister of FYROM, Antonio Milososki?
MR. MCCORMACK: The Macedonian foreign minister and the secretary had a good meeting.
They talked about Macedonia's application to join NATO. They talked about Kosovo. And the subset of the issue related to NATO, they talked about the name issue -- so-called name issue with respect to Macedonia.
And our bottom line, which the secretary reiterated, is we urged Macedonia, as we will urge the Greek foreign minister, when the secretary sees her later in the week, to fully participate in the process that is being run by the secretary-general's special representative, Nimitz. He's working hard on this issue and we urge them to use that process and use the good offices of Ambassador Nimitz to find a resolution to the issue.
Q Yes, one more. On the bilateral level, any concrete effort, like mediation, by Secretary Rice for a solution on the name issue, as you said, between Greece and FYROM?
MR. MCCORMACK: Now see, replay what I just said. She urged them to use that process, use the process that is being run by the secretary-general's special representative. She urged them to -- she urged the foreign minister to use that process to find a solution, as she will urge the Greek foreign minister when she sees her on Thursday.
Q Who initiated --
Q And again there were no suggestions of possible new names?
MR. MCCORMACK: No. No.
What They Are Saying Missus Kounelakis,a.k.a Eleni Tsakopoulos-Kounalakis , Hillary's Greek
The bland Hillary promo published in the San Francisco Chronicle, from the self-proclaimed Chair of Greek Americans For Clinton, is capped with the latest commentary below:
Eleni Tsakopoulos-Kounalakis is related to the Tsakopoulos family, they are triple digit millionaires out in California, whenever Bill Clinton visited northern California, he always stayed in Tsakopoulos' house. Its unfortunate that these muhtari (a word from Cyprus to describe Greeks who pose as "leaders" but are really just the representatives of their pockets and of Cyprus' Turkish slave masters) pose as reps of the Greek Americans, in fact, they represent their own business interests. These guys surrounding Tsakopoulos and Manatos are self-serving, selfish, shady businessmen, and elixir salesmen, prostituting the torture, missing people, and ethnic cleansing of people in Cyprus for their own personal side businesses. Shame on Tsakopoulos, Shame on Chris SPIROU and all others grouping around Andrew Manatos's "saxonaki" face and backroom deals.
This was also found on a message board:
Same goes for the clique of muhtari surrounding the Anglo-Saxon-look-alike third generation Washington DC-lobbyist Andrew Manatos, indeed, Chris Spirou is a front man for Manatos lobby interests as are a handful of others posing as "leaders", indeed, Manatos and the clique of muhtari that are with him, prostitute the national issues and misrepresent true Greek American public opinion.
Chris Spirou and Philip Christopher did lobby on behalf of the Milosevic regime, because Manatos was Milosevic's official paid lobbyist in Washington DC in the 1990s, and they are Manatos fronts.
A young Greek American at a Greek Americans for OBAMA event, last night, in New York, called this Chris Spirou and his "Save Aghia Sofia" project a total fake, when he visited the site, all the links were down, and his email to Chris Spirou was sent back to him.
Eleni Tsakopoulos-Kounalakis is related to the Tsakopoulos family, they are triple digit millionaires out in California, whenever Bill Clinton visited northern California, he always stayed in Tsakopoulos' house. Its unfortunate that these muhtari (a word from Cyprus to describe Greeks who pose as "leaders" but are really just the representatives of their pockets and of Cyprus' Turkish slave masters) pose as reps of the Greek Americans, in fact, they represent their own business interests. These guys surrounding Tsakopoulos and Manatos are self-serving, selfish, shady businessmen, and elixir salesmen, prostituting the torture, missing people, and ethnic cleansing of people in Cyprus for their own personal side businesses. Shame on Tsakopoulos, Shame on Chris SPIROU and all others grouping around Andrew Manatos's "saxonaki" face and backroom deals.
This was also found on a message board:
Same goes for the clique of muhtari surrounding the Anglo-Saxon-look-alike third generation Washington DC-lobbyist Andrew Manatos, indeed, Chris Spirou is a front man for Manatos lobby interests as are a handful of others posing as "leaders", indeed, Manatos and the clique of muhtari that are with him, prostitute the national issues and misrepresent true Greek American public opinion.
Chris Spirou and Philip Christopher did lobby on behalf of the Milosevic regime, because Manatos was Milosevic's official paid lobbyist in Washington DC in the 1990s, and they are Manatos fronts.
A young Greek American at a Greek Americans for OBAMA event, last night, in New York, called this Chris Spirou and his "Save Aghia Sofia" project a total fake, when he visited the site, all the links were down, and his email to Chris Spirou was sent back to him.
Monday, February 11, 2008
Saturday, February 9, 2008
STATE DEPT CONTINUES ERADICATION OF MACEDONIANS AND ALL HELLAS
The following was passed on to us by our Washington DC-contacts, yesterday afternoon....
STATE DEPARTMENT REGULAR BRIEFING 8.2.2008 BRIEFER: TOM CASEY
STATE DEPARTMENT REGULAR BRIEFING BRIEFER: TOM CASEY, DEPARTMENT ACTING SPOKESMAN LOCATION: STATE DEPARTMENT BRIEFING ROOM, WASHINGTON, D.C. TIME: 1:04 P.M. EST DATE: FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 2008
Okay. Mr. Lambros.
Q Yes, on FYROM. Mr. Casey --
MR. CASEY: Yes, Mr. Lambros?
Q Mr. Casey, you stated yesterday, quote, "I know Mr. Nimetz has put forward a new proposal of his own to the group," unquote. Do you mean the last one, totally a new one, or he's going to submit another one?
MR. CASEY: Mr. Lambros, I'm happy to clarify that for you. As you know, in Washington the definition of "new" doesn't always fit that definition in the real world.
But just to make clear, the -- Special Representative Nimetz suggested a framework paper to the parties in November, and that's the framework agreement that I was referring to and think that provides a promising basis on which to pursue an agreement on this issue.
So that's the proposal in question. It's relatively new, but I can certainly understand why my referring to it as a new proposal yesterday would have confused --
Q So it really is the previous one.
MR. CASEY: It is the one -- it is the framework paper to the parties that was given to them in November.
Q One more question. You also said yesterday that you will be pleased to support any agreement by the two parties, Greece and FYROM. Therefore, I'm wondering if you are going to implement it revoking your decision of November 4, 2004, which created so many problems without reason.
MR. CASEY: Mr. Lambros, the U.S. decision to recognize the Republic of Macedonia by its constitutional name was very clear. It was explained to you at the time. Certainly, though, in terms of the two countries, we hope that they will reach a(n) equitable agreement in terms of a settlement of this long-standing issue. And again, we will welcome and be happy to support whatever agreement they might reach.
Q So there hasn't been any suggestion for --
MR. CASEY: No.
Q There was a report - MR. CASEY: No. There is no U.S. proposal or State Department proposal. Those reports are inaccurate.
……………………………………………………………………………………………
Mr. Lambros, we'll give you one more, then let's go to the back here.
Q On Turkey, Mr. Casey, in light of your concerns over nuclear proliferation in Iran, and Ankara's warming relations with Tehran, along with the report recently in The Times that Turkey may be involved in stealing nuclear secrets from the United States, why, then, you would want to increase nuclear technology transfer to Turkey?
MR. CASEY: Mr. Lambros, I'm not sure what, specifically, you're referring to, but Turkey's a friend and NATO ally. I'm not aware of any allegations that Turkey has ever behaved outside of its commitments under the NPT. And certainly we want to have friendly and cooperative relations with Turkey in all spheres, including in civilian nuclear.
Q And a follow-up. Was the recent announcement of nuclear agreement rushed all in response to the recent reports in The Times about Turkey's efforts to steal secrets? (Greeks For Obama note: Here is the link to that Times story, here is the Dan Ellsberg news release on the story) When President Gul came to visit this town just a few weeks ago, neither this agreement nor even nuclear energy in general was even an item in the discussion.
MR. CASEY: Mr. Lambros, the report you're referring to in The Times, which Times would that be?
Q London.
MR. CASEY: Oh, the British Times. I did see that story.
Let me just say that that story is absolutely absurd, false, inaccurate, without foundation. And it's an absolute shame that a respectable newspaper, like The Times of London, would print such pure garbage.
(Cross talk.)
So, I'll tell you, that said, in keeping with our last question
--
(Cross talk.)
Q Just to be sure, this is the report that accuses, that says, that quotes this FBI translator as saying a former undersecretary of State was -- that's the report.
MR. CASEY: That's correct. That is the report to which I refer,
yeah.
Q And your comment just now about it seemed to echo what that official told the newspaper about it. Is that -- have you been in touch with that person?
MR. CASEY: No, I haven't but I have seen what was published.
And I think I made our views clear on that.
Q (Off mike.)
MR. CASEY: The report has no validity, Mr. Lambros. It's untrue.
In terms of nuclear energy and cooperation with the government of Turkey, I know the Department of Energy has recently put out some statements on that, and I'd just refer you back to that.
Q Thank you very much.
STATE DEPARTMENT REGULAR BRIEFING 8.2.2008 BRIEFER: TOM CASEY
STATE DEPARTMENT REGULAR BRIEFING BRIEFER: TOM CASEY, DEPARTMENT ACTING SPOKESMAN LOCATION: STATE DEPARTMENT BRIEFING ROOM, WASHINGTON, D.C. TIME: 1:04 P.M. EST DATE: FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 2008
Okay. Mr. Lambros.
Q Yes, on FYROM. Mr. Casey --
MR. CASEY: Yes, Mr. Lambros?
Q Mr. Casey, you stated yesterday, quote, "I know Mr. Nimetz has put forward a new proposal of his own to the group," unquote. Do you mean the last one, totally a new one, or he's going to submit another one?
MR. CASEY: Mr. Lambros, I'm happy to clarify that for you. As you know, in Washington the definition of "new" doesn't always fit that definition in the real world.
But just to make clear, the -- Special Representative Nimetz suggested a framework paper to the parties in November, and that's the framework agreement that I was referring to and think that provides a promising basis on which to pursue an agreement on this issue.
So that's the proposal in question. It's relatively new, but I can certainly understand why my referring to it as a new proposal yesterday would have confused --
Q So it really is the previous one.
MR. CASEY: It is the one -- it is the framework paper to the parties that was given to them in November.
Q One more question. You also said yesterday that you will be pleased to support any agreement by the two parties, Greece and FYROM. Therefore, I'm wondering if you are going to implement it revoking your decision of November 4, 2004, which created so many problems without reason.
MR. CASEY: Mr. Lambros, the U.S. decision to recognize the Republic of Macedonia by its constitutional name was very clear. It was explained to you at the time. Certainly, though, in terms of the two countries, we hope that they will reach a(n) equitable agreement in terms of a settlement of this long-standing issue. And again, we will welcome and be happy to support whatever agreement they might reach.
Q So there hasn't been any suggestion for --
MR. CASEY: No.
Q There was a report - MR. CASEY: No. There is no U.S. proposal or State Department proposal. Those reports are inaccurate.
……………………………………………………………………………………………
Mr. Lambros, we'll give you one more, then let's go to the back here.
Q On Turkey, Mr. Casey, in light of your concerns over nuclear proliferation in Iran, and Ankara's warming relations with Tehran, along with the report recently in The Times that Turkey may be involved in stealing nuclear secrets from the United States, why, then, you would want to increase nuclear technology transfer to Turkey?
MR. CASEY: Mr. Lambros, I'm not sure what, specifically, you're referring to, but Turkey's a friend and NATO ally. I'm not aware of any allegations that Turkey has ever behaved outside of its commitments under the NPT. And certainly we want to have friendly and cooperative relations with Turkey in all spheres, including in civilian nuclear.
Q And a follow-up. Was the recent announcement of nuclear agreement rushed all in response to the recent reports in The Times about Turkey's efforts to steal secrets? (Greeks For Obama note: Here is the link to that Times story, here is the Dan Ellsberg news release on the story) When President Gul came to visit this town just a few weeks ago, neither this agreement nor even nuclear energy in general was even an item in the discussion.
MR. CASEY: Mr. Lambros, the report you're referring to in The Times, which Times would that be?
Q London.
MR. CASEY: Oh, the British Times. I did see that story.
Let me just say that that story is absolutely absurd, false, inaccurate, without foundation. And it's an absolute shame that a respectable newspaper, like The Times of London, would print such pure garbage.
(Cross talk.)
So, I'll tell you, that said, in keeping with our last question
--
(Cross talk.)
Q Just to be sure, this is the report that accuses, that says, that quotes this FBI translator as saying a former undersecretary of State was -- that's the report.
MR. CASEY: That's correct. That is the report to which I refer,
yeah.
Q And your comment just now about it seemed to echo what that official told the newspaper about it. Is that -- have you been in touch with that person?
MR. CASEY: No, I haven't but I have seen what was published.
And I think I made our views clear on that.
Q (Off mike.)
MR. CASEY: The report has no validity, Mr. Lambros. It's untrue.
In terms of nuclear energy and cooperation with the government of Turkey, I know the Department of Energy has recently put out some statements on that, and I'd just refer you back to that.
Q Thank you very much.
Friday, February 8, 2008
STATE DEPT LAUGHING : THE TRUE FACE OF THOSE WHO WANT MACEDONIANS ERADICATED
The following was passed on to us by our Washington DC-contacts, yesterday afternoon....
STATE DEPARTMENT REGULAR BRIEFING BRIEFER: TOM CASEY
STATE DEPARTMENT REGULAR BRIEFING BRIEFER: TOM CASEY, DEPARTMENT DEPUTY SPOKESMAN LOCATION: STATE DEPARTMENT BRIEFING ROOM, WASHINGTON, D.C. TIME:
1:59 P.M. EST DATE: THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 2008
Yeah, Mr. Lambros.
Q On FYROM, Mr. Casey, in response to an obvious fabricated front-page story regarding FYROM, published yesterday in Athens by the Greek daily K-a-t-h-i-m-e-r-i-n-i -- dispatched also by Athens News Agency, DOS officer in charge for European Affairs, Chase Beamer, stated, quote, "There is no State Department plan, as suggested in some press reports. We continue to encourage both sides to seek agreement on the name dispute, under the auspices of U.N.-led talks. We support U.N. mediator Nimitz's efforts. We will support any compromise agreed by the parties," unquote. Any additional comment?
MR. CASEY: No, that sounds about right to me. (Laughs.)
Q One follow-up: What do you mean with a compromise, since you mentioned that too, the other day, answering to question of mine, within the UN or out of the U.N.
MR. CASEY: Well, Mr. Lambros, basically, as you know, this is an issue that has a great deal of emotion attached to it, both in Macedonia and in Greece. The main point is, there is this negotiation process under way. I know Mr. Nimitz has put forward a new proposal of his own to the group. Hopefully that can be the basis for the two of them to reach an agreement.
But in terms of our view, as long as their is an outcome, and as long as there is an agreement that is acceptable to both parties, we will be pleased and happy to support that, when and if it occurs.
STATE DEPARTMENT REGULAR BRIEFING BRIEFER: TOM CASEY
STATE DEPARTMENT REGULAR BRIEFING BRIEFER: TOM CASEY, DEPARTMENT DEPUTY SPOKESMAN LOCATION: STATE DEPARTMENT BRIEFING ROOM, WASHINGTON, D.C. TIME:
1:59 P.M. EST DATE: THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 2008
Yeah, Mr. Lambros.
Q On FYROM, Mr. Casey, in response to an obvious fabricated front-page story regarding FYROM, published yesterday in Athens by the Greek daily K-a-t-h-i-m-e-r-i-n-i -- dispatched also by Athens News Agency, DOS officer in charge for European Affairs, Chase Beamer, stated, quote, "There is no State Department plan, as suggested in some press reports. We continue to encourage both sides to seek agreement on the name dispute, under the auspices of U.N.-led talks. We support U.N. mediator Nimitz's efforts. We will support any compromise agreed by the parties," unquote. Any additional comment?
MR. CASEY: No, that sounds about right to me. (Laughs.)
Q One follow-up: What do you mean with a compromise, since you mentioned that too, the other day, answering to question of mine, within the UN or out of the U.N.
MR. CASEY: Well, Mr. Lambros, basically, as you know, this is an issue that has a great deal of emotion attached to it, both in Macedonia and in Greece. The main point is, there is this negotiation process under way. I know Mr. Nimitz has put forward a new proposal of his own to the group. Hopefully that can be the basis for the two of them to reach an agreement.
But in terms of our view, as long as their is an outcome, and as long as there is an agreement that is acceptable to both parties, we will be pleased and happy to support that, when and if it occurs.
Monday, February 4, 2008
Article on Obama in Today's Kathimerini (Greece's Top Daily)
KATHIMERINI English Edition Date: 2-4-2008
Barack Obama gives indication of thinking on issues of Greek interest if he wins Democratic candidacy and gets presidency
The senator from Illinois is seen in many quarters as a bridge between cultures, races and social groups, and therefore well placed to understand their concerns.
By Tom Ellis - Kathimerini
Armenian genocide
Last Wednesday, the Armenian National Committee of America endorsed Obama's candidacy, emphasizing «his strong record in office, his bold statements as a candidate, and our judgment as to the policies he will pursue as president... Senator Obama will best reflect the views and values of Armenian-American voters.» ( Link to article )
Barack Obama gives indication of thinking on issues of Greek interest if he wins Democratic candidacy and gets presidency
The senator from Illinois is seen in many quarters as a bridge between cultures, races and social groups, and therefore well placed to understand their concerns.
By Tom Ellis - Kathimerini
Armenian genocide
Last Wednesday, the Armenian National Committee of America endorsed Obama's candidacy, emphasizing «his strong record in office, his bold statements as a candidate, and our judgment as to the policies he will pursue as president... Senator Obama will best reflect the views and values of Armenian-American voters.» ( Link to article )
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